Well, we’d go to Fort Wayne to visit my mother’s uncle for a day or two or three, that would be it. We did go to Cleveland a couple times and spent the same amount of time with a friend of hers and her family.

My trip to Germany was the first time I really got away from home for any length of time.

That was the first time I had ever been on a ship. The first time I went over I went by ship. The M.S. Berlin. It had been a German ship and I can’t remember the name of it now, and after the war it was confiscated and they renamed it the M.S. Berlin.

I think the German’s owned it as a matter of fact and they renamed it. It wasn’t confiscated. It was a German line and I took it from New York. That was my first trip over. Then I flew over quite often after that. I think I came back one time by ship. I don’t remember. I never wrote these things down. I should have done it.

Terrible, lazy! Too busy! I just liked it. I really liked seeing new things. I traveled as much as I could, as much as I could afford and as much time as I had, because once I started working I just had my regular vacations, you know?

My parents expected me home for that, so, I didn’t really travel over there too often much. I did get down to Spain and Northern Africa, but I didn’t see much there because it was just very brief and then…let me see, France, England…I had cousins in England and I did see them. They were Zeltners also. I didn’t really get into Eastern Europe, Czechoslovakia and that sort of thing. Never got into Russia either as I remember. I don’t think I did.

Oh yes. My brother threw away my passport. I could have smacked him. (Laughs)

Oh, I had worked in Oshkosh at one of those – and coming home, and I started out really early. About half way toward Detroit I fell asleep and went off the road and hit a tree and broke my back and that laid me up for about six months.

But it healed perfectly. I had a wonderful doctor up there. A very young man in New York, but it took a long time. I was here, as a matter of fact, when I finally came back down to this area.