We moved from there to San Antonio, and then from San Antonio to Bandera, Texas close to San Antonio - a western town.

I worked there breaking horses. They said if you want to ride that horse, you better break it, and you keep it. It will be yours to ride everyday. So I break three horses.

Then I started to learn how to rope the calves and all that stuff. In the old days, we brand the calves with a brand from the fire that we had. We had about three or four calves on the ground at a time.

I feel sorry for those calves because in those days they cried because of the hot iron, but the brand lasts forever, because the scar in there.

Now, these days, they got it made because they don’t brand anymore like that - and I’m glad - they use the paint. The paint that will never wear off. They shave the place where they going to put that number or whatever, and the hair grows again, but the number is there.

I work in there with real nice persons too. We work on the ranch in Bandera. It was owned by a millionaire - a guy that used to own oil wells. Had his own airplane. Beautiful country, Bandera, Texas. I don’t know if you’ve been around that area or not. Beautiful, I mean, there’s nothing more beautiful than Bandera to me. It is hill country and that country was when the Indians were still around, you know.

They have big caves in there and nobody went all the way down to the big caves because they were afraid. So one reporter from San Antonio, Texas, they asked for permission to in there and take pictures, you know, in the caves. They found a spear that the Indians throw and a lot of stuff.

But he got afraid when they got to the second level. And he throw the lights in there and there were pretty good size rattlesnakes in that area too - that is the reason you don’t go in that area, you know what I mean.

Then one day somebody from San Antonio, Texas, they have these kind of machines, they were looking for money under the ground, you know, but they make a big mistake because they went in there without permission from the big man. They were lucky they weren’t put behind bars. They dig a hole in there and I don’t know how close it was to the money there or whatever, but they got caught.

They kicked them out of there in no time at all and we don’t have no more problems after that. But this guy had three ranges and they have nothing but cows. Nothing but the best, you know what I mean.

And they have quarterhorses, full-blood quarterhorses and also they had some Angora goats and they have sheep, you know. And me and my brother were taking care of the goats, part-time. They have big fields in there, they plant corn for the silo to feed the cows for the winter.

And my job for most of the time I just get on my horse and watch and go over there and check the fences.

One time I went over there - I had my lunch with me; I went over there and tied my horse to the tree. I just can’t believe that the water was coming out of the rocks like a stream - a steady stream. Real clear and real good taste, you know. Real great, I just couldn’t believe that stuff. We have - where we get our water, it was something like that, but this guy built like a place with concrete, you know, on the bottom, and from there they pumped the water to the houses - by pipeline.

But I work there for a while and then we came to Arkansas, to the cotton fields, and I learned how to operate the cotton picker machine. I was interpreter for some of the Mexicans because my boss was right there in Arkansas.

They said I got 50 people coming from Mexico, but everything is legal, you know, and I signed for those people and I need those people and they’re going to be here picking cotton, that’s what they’re going to do. He told me I would be in charge because you know the language and you can tell them what I want them to do.

They fixed the house really good for those people. They even make a party when they got there, you know. They get fresh water to drink because the water they use there wasn’t good enough to drink so - they hold them in barrels, you know.

We stayed there for a while and then I was, like I say, in charge. I was weighing the cotton for them.

My people, the Mexican people, they say ’no I don’t think you’re weighing it right’, you know.

They say to me I don’t think you’re weighing it right. They think I was cheating or something like that.

I told my boss about it and I said, well we’re gonna fix the scales, so they can weigh it and that way they can argue about nothing.

And my job was when they finished picking it was on this other highway - the field - and we had to cross the highway to go to the places where they sleep, you know, where the houses were.

I told the guys, you know, I said listen guys you don’t cross the highway unless I say so and when we’re ready because there is a lot of traffic. One of those guys didn’t pay attention to me and got hit and they got two limbs broken. They hit him real heavy. It was lucky they didn’t kill him.

Anyway, the guy can’t work no more, so I had to work there and be interpreter for this and that. But then really these people there, they really loved this guy so much I tell you. They gave him some clothes. There take him to the games - you know crutches and this and that, you know. The doctor from there, you know.

I tell you. And they gave him some money. They collect money, you know, they gave him some money when he was ready to go back, because he didn’t work no more, he didn’t make no more money or nothing. They sent him by bus over there and with a paper from the doctors saying that when he get to Mexico and his town, they had to go see a doctor about what’s going on, you know, to get him well completely. But they really were good people I tell you. Really good people.

Myself, they been there for me every second. Since I came to his _____, he was helping me. I never have any problem in my life and I never went to welfare for help. I’m very proud of myself. I’m never lazy myself, no way. I work for whatever they pay me. Everything is good enough for me as long as I can make it, it is okay.

A lot of people now, you know, these days, when I see these people, I don’t know. These young people, they don’t want to work, you know what I mean.

Look what the immigration is doing right now with the people from Mexico - they doing the right thing for one thing, but they doing the wrong thing the other way because they lose the crops over here on the oranges because of the help - especially over here in Florida

They cleaned Florida completely because this guy wasn’t legal over here. The thing a lot of people think - they don’t want to see it, see. These people are there they said, even my people here from the United States, even those people, they say ’these people from Mexico they come over here and take the jobs away from us’.

That’s not the right thing to do, they say. But who is going to do the jobs, these guys, they don’t want to do. See those people from Mexico come over here to do any kind of job for any amount of money. That’s why they come over here. And the factories right here, too.

And I don’t blame these people, you know. If I was the owner of a factory and have all these headaches because these people complain too much about making too much money already to start - you know, then they want more and more, especially if they’re in the union, you know what I mean.

They say, ’I’m going to close the place and I’m going to move it and you guys are going to be out of a job’.

And they move it to Mexico, they move it other places - you know in Mexico they don’t have all the regulations they have right here in the United States. But I don’t know, I tell you, what is going to happen.

The way this world is right now, oh man. I tell you the only - like I told my brother not too long ago about the war we have over here.

I don’t really agree with Bush myself. Bush, he not doing the right thing and I know it - a lot of people know it. A lot of people against Bush right now, even the Congress against him, you know.

Why do they want to keep sending some more soldiers over there, when they keep killing our people there, you know what I mean. It’ll be the time, it’ll be the time - but they keep killing and killing them. That war never going to finish. You know, the terrorists never going to finish. The only time when this war is going to end is when God decides to destroy the world.